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Flat Earth

ROUND EARTH CLUES

The Southern Sky

    1. At certain times of year, there is 24 hr daylight at the southernmost places of the Earth.
    1. Polaris is always visible in the Northern-most part of the Earth. This is the North celestial pole. There is also a South celestial pole.
    1. The movement of the night sky is at the same speed in the Northern and Southern hemisphere.
    1. Tip of Africa and SA can see the same stars at the same time at night, but not the stars in the North.

How are these facts explained in the Flat Earth model?

The Moon

  1. Everyone sees the same face of the moon. If the moon is close, you would see different faces as it moves through the sky, as well as based on your latitude.
  2. If the moon emits its own light, why are there shadows (inside craters) that directly coincide with the sun’s location?
  3. If it reflects the Sun’s light, then why can’t the whole world see the sun and moon at the same time? (It can’t be a “spotlight”)
  4. The lunar eclipse makes perfect sense in the globe model. How is it explained by the Flat Earth model?
  5. If the sun and moon are the same size, the fluctuations in angular size mean that the moon would travel behind the sun during an eclipse when it is a micro moon. This would be observable with consumer grade equipment.

Sunset/rise

  1. Why does the Sun go down (or appear to)?
  2. Sun and clouds do not disappear due to perspective (vanishing point), but because it is obscured by the horizon.
    1. The sun does not decrease in angular size (the size it appears to be in the sky).
    2. Clouds reduce in angular size until they are obscured by the horizon.
    3. The angular distance between the sun/moon does not noticeably change as they move through the sky (per night, not per month).
  3. Why are there direct rays from the sun and shadows appear on the underside of the clouds at sunset? In the flat earth model, clouds are always beneath the Sun. https://www.amusingplanet.com/2013/10/the-shadow-of-mount-rainier.html
  4. Clouds that are higher in the atmosphere receive direct sunlight longer during the sunset. How then can the sun be acting like a spotlight?

Travel & maps

  1. Airlines
  2. Ships
    https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:-81.6/centery:-16.0/zoom:2
  3. Australia

The Bible

The flat earth model which is presented by nearly all flat-earthers does not align with the Bible's description.

  1. 4 corners of the earth.
    1. Also 4 winds
  2. Sun, moon, and stars are "within" the firmament, not below it.
  3. Sun rising/setting (can be interpreted as coming and going).

Comment to "Flat Earthers in Christ" FB Group.

I'm trying to find information on FE but Google/YT seems to bury any pro-FE things. I've heard FE Society is fake.

  1. Does anyone have links to a good model of flat earth showing the sun/moon?

  2. Does anyone have a good sites/videos explaining specific natural phenomena like sunrise, the stars, etc?

  3. Please provide any other material that gives solid evidences for a flat earth that you think I should see.

*I'm NOT interested in NASA fakery or debunking curvature by zooming in over water.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/flatearthchristians/?notif_id=1598042543095923&notif_t=group_r2j_approved&ref=notif

So, I am interested in the flat earth concept. However, there are few phenomena that don't seem to make sense in the flat earth model. I don't want to come off as someone simply trying to "debunk", but I have a hard time believing in something that doesn't line up with things that can be easily observed. Is this an okay place to ask questions? I have a list, but I can start with just one. In the flat earth model, the firmament (dome-like structure) rotates above a flat earth. Apart from the "wandering stars" or planets, the stars are fixed within the firmament. In the North (or center) of the dome is a star called Polaris that everything seems to rotate around. This makes sense in the flat earth model. However, the same thing happens in the South (the outer edge of the firmament). Which is to say, the stars rotate around a fixed in the southern-most part of the sky. In the Flat earth model, the southern-most part of the sky is not a point, but the "edge" of the dome. Can anyone provide an explanation that reconciles this issue?

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